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Ellis Flanders sworn says - I am a special Constable I live

(o) 4 Novr at Pillgwenlly - I was on duty in the Barracks on Monday last (o)

I have seen the Prisoner before - I saw him last Tuesday - I took

a walk from the Barracks gate - from the Barracks the Gates open into

the road leading from Newport to Risca - I saw Sergent Reed of the

45th regiment standing near the Gate at that time - it was then from

one to two o'Clock as near as I can tell - the prisoner at that time was

accompanied by two other persons they were three in all - I dont think

I should know either of those persons again - the person just taken -

into Custody was not one of those persons - the prisoner on coming up

to me asked respecting a person who he supposed was a prisoner - he asked

after him by name - I don't remember the name he gave - we went &
enquired and there was no such person as he enquired for - there
Sergeant Reed asked the prisoner whether he was a Chartist he said he

was a chartist in principle - the Sergeant suggested to me that it was my

duty to take that person into custody - he was taken by me into Custody

that was all that passed between us - it was the Prisoner first asked me

for the man he supposed to be in custody - one of the persons who was with

him also asked - I did not hear the young man ask for his father - I

dont recollect the name of the man that he enquired for - I dont know

that it was the young man's father -

Ellis Flanders